Q1 Ultra for sale -- 2GB RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 7 Pro

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Q1 Ultra for sale -- 2GB RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 7 Pro

Postby billrice » Tue Aug 02, 2011 21:16

I have it for sale on ebay. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260828465810&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

Hope whomever buys this enjoys it as much as I did!

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Tue Aug 02, 2011 23:33

WoW! Just a couple days ago someone had a Sony U3 on ebay.
I wonder how forum member are interested in the "competition". If you looked around you could probably find an OQO.

(Eh- 800MHz cpu? not for me. but the 7" screen, 2GB ram & built in ports sound nice)
UX280 U7700- ssd of the day - hardware test toy
UX37GN stock- U1500-hdd

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Postby tomn » Tue Aug 21, 2012 18:06

ceehoppy1st,

The 800mhz CPU is not as bad as it looks on paper - the 2GB RAM makes this machine fly, compare to most 1GB RAM machines. You can also overclock it to 1.05GHz using setFSB.

I am actually using the Q1 much more than I originally envisioned.
[color="Blue"]CURRENT TOY SYSTEMS:[/color]

Vaio PCG-U1 - Transmeta 867MHz 6.4"
Vaio VGN-U50 - 5"32G SSD
Vaio UX380N - 4.5" 128G SSD
Vaio P15G - 8" 128G SSD

Viliv S5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb
Viliv N5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb

Fujitsu U820 - 5.6" 128G SSD
Samsung Q1 Ultra - 7" 2G RAM 64G SLC SSD
Dell Inspiron Duo - 300G SSD

[color="Red"]NEW TOYS:[/color]

Dell Venue 8 Pro - 64G eMMC
Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T- 64G eMMC
Sony Vaio Tap 11 - 2.9GHz Core i7 1TB SSD
Samsung Note Pro 12.2
Dell Venue 11 Pro - Core M 256G SSD

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Tue Aug 21, 2012 20:39

you do realize this thread is over 1 year old?

While you still occasionally find the OQO, Q1, or even a sony U-series on ebay, parts & support for such tends to be more difficult to find than for UX.
UX280 U7700- ssd of the day - hardware test toy

UX37GN stock- U1500-hdd

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Postby bigs » Tue Aug 21, 2012 22:50

yes tomn, 2Gb RAM is nice, that is why I had to go to Ubuntu, as 1Gb is more than adequate for the current Distros. Win7, and Winxp is pretty borderline with 1Gb. recommend only lite version of the OS to be installed here
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard
OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!
sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate
light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby tomn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 08:49

ceehoppy,

Yes I realize this thread is over 1 year old, but I have a Q1 Ultra and I am finding it more useful than the UX:

1. Larger, brighter screen
2. Much louder stereo speakers
3. 2GB RAM - I upgraded it myself in just a few minutes, you really need 2GB to be productive under Win7
4. 2x the battery life of UX - standard battery is 4+ hours while extended battery could push it over 8 hours light usage
5. Nice, solid built-in kick stand, instead of a flimsy piece of plastic like the UX
6. Full size SD card slot that can accept 128GB SDXC cards
7. Split QWERTY keyboard actually easier to type on than the UX's recessed keys
8. Win7 driver recognized as touch screen, with the UX you need to spend $20+ for the touch driver for it to be recognized as a touch screen.
9. Multiple user definable keys and easy to use volume control buttons
10. Dual USB port, normal VGA port and Ethernet port
11. Internal PCI-e port with SIM Card reader means you can upgrade to a wide variety of HSPA/CDMA 3G/4G modem cards, kick the pants of the UX's AT&T Edge modem
12. Comes with a landyard, no fear of dropping the Q1 Ultra

Other equivalent features:

1. Front and back video cameras with dedicated camera shuttle button
2. Finger print reader
3. Mouse / cursor with left/right click buttons
4. Fan could be a bit noisy
5. Easy upgrade from Vista to Win7 (actually easier than upgrading the UX)
6. Same 1024x600 resolution
7. Same GMA 950 chipset with integrated graphics

Not as good as the UX:

1. Heavier @ 1.5lbs, although if you factor in battery life, it is not much heavier than a UX with extended battery (UX @ 1.37lbs vs Q1 Ultra @ 1.5lbs)
2. UX looks more high tech and advanced
3. Larger than UX, you need a coat pocket or cargo pants pocket to fit it in
4. Available in black only - I kinda like the UX in silver/black
5. No back lit keyboard
6. Marginally slower CPU
7. Screen with lower DPI, doesn't look as sharp
8. No way to upgrade CPU to U7700
9. Only comes with ONE WiFi antenna, I have to swap the WiFi card to the Intel 5100 802.11a/b/g/n card and install additional antenna to bring it up to modern standard

The Q1 Ultra is an excellent media player, as long as you don't play HD stuff. DVD quality video plays perfectly, audio is loud and clear and you can use the full size SD card to store tons of video and transfer it between different machines.

I have the Vaio U1, U50 and bunch of other toys, I would say parts for Q1U is still quite easy to find. I have since bought another new standard battery and new extended battery, a new docking station and other stuff. I have one of the very last production Q1 actually made in late 2009, so it is only 2+ years old. The U1 I have is close to 10 years old and still fully functional, thinking of upgrading it to a SSD, but the CPU is so slow it probably won't make a huge difference...
[color="Blue"]CURRENT TOY SYSTEMS:[/color]



Vaio PCG-U1 - Transmeta 867MHz 6.4"

Vaio VGN-U50 - 5"32G SSD

Vaio UX380N - 4.5" 128G SSD

Vaio P15G - 8" 128G SSD



Viliv S5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb

Viliv N5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb



Fujitsu U820 - 5.6" 128G SSD

Samsung Q1 Ultra - 7" 2G RAM 64G SLC SSD

Dell Inspiron Duo - 300G SSD



[color="Red"]NEW TOYS:[/color]



Dell Venue 8 Pro - 64G eMMC

Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T- 64G eMMC

Sony Vaio Tap 11 - 2.9GHz Core i7 1TB SSD

Samsung Note Pro 12.2

Dell Venue 11 Pro - Core M 256G SSD

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Postby tomn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 08:51

bigs wrote:yes tomn, 2Gb RAM is nice, that is why I had to go to Ubuntu, as 1Gb is more than adequate for the current Distros. Win7, and Winxp is pretty borderline with 1Gb. recommend only lite version of the OS to be installed here


Bigs,

You are seriously tempting me... I think I will upgrade my UX to Ubuntu with WINE. Have you tried Lubuntu since it is even more light weight? If it works well I will upgrade all my 1GB RAM devices to Ubuntu (Fujitsu U820, Viliv S5/N5 etc...)

So far what is the negative aspect of upgrading to Ubuntu? Would like to know the pitfalls before I head there..
[color="Blue"]CURRENT TOY SYSTEMS:[/color]



Vaio PCG-U1 - Transmeta 867MHz 6.4"

Vaio VGN-U50 - 5"32G SSD

Vaio UX380N - 4.5" 128G SSD

Vaio P15G - 8" 128G SSD



Viliv S5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb

Viliv N5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb



Fujitsu U820 - 5.6" 128G SSD

Samsung Q1 Ultra - 7" 2G RAM 64G SLC SSD

Dell Inspiron Duo - 300G SSD



[color="Red"]NEW TOYS:[/color]



Dell Venue 8 Pro - 64G eMMC

Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T- 64G eMMC

Sony Vaio Tap 11 - 2.9GHz Core i7 1TB SSD

Samsung Note Pro 12.2

Dell Venue 11 Pro - Core M 256G SSD

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Postby bigs » Wed Aug 22, 2012 22:28

Most importantly the Q1 CPU is alot slower than the UX Intel Core solo CPU hence why the battery lasts longer, plus like you said the larger formfactor allows for larger internal batteries.

Personally agree the UX is more high tech, plus the backlit keyboard really helps when typing in dark rooms.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby bigs » Wed Aug 22, 2012 22:44

tomn wrote:Bigs,

You are seriously tempting me... I think I will upgrade my UX to Ubuntu with WINE. Have you tried Lubuntu since it is even more light weight? If it works well I will upgrade all my 1GB RAM devices to Ubuntu (Fujitsu U820, Viliv S5/N5 etc...)

So far what is the negative aspect of upgrading to Ubuntu? Would like to know the pitfalls before I head there..


Mostly positive, but like anything there are negatives. The obvious negative is gaming. There are limited mainstream games in Linux, but the formfactor of the UX is really not designed with gaming in mind in my opinion.

I have not tried Lubuntu, but like you said, even smaller footprint OS, and hence will run even better on the UX, but I put my experience to Ubuntu here.

The only negative I know of is that you cannot switch the web cam to use the rear camera, so you are restricted to using the front camera, which I find is the one I would use most of the time. Also the Pointer stick is over sensitive, and tends to left click too easily. I have heard if you are willing to recompile your kernel, you can disable the left click feature in the pointer stick hence, fixing that problem.

Appart from that there are more positives using Ubuntu than negatives. For instance, you will get improved battery life as the kernel uses less CPU than windows in idle, newer drivers for GMA950 Intel Graphics which allows 1080p HD media playback using only 60% CPU! Front panel shortcut keys can be programmed to your bidding. Finger print reader works great too. Wireless switch, touch screen with calibration and battery meters all work fine too.

Support for VAIO in Linux seems better than even on some other branded portable computers. With VAIO Utils, one can power off bluetooth independent of the wifi, and have better acpi control. With these tools one can also customize the fan speeds on the UX, so you can have a quieter UX that runs warmer, or you have have a high performing UX, that will never throttle but pushing the fan way past the bios thresholds. Also the Linux kernel with the aid of PHC allows for excellent CPU undervolting, which further improved battery endurance and cooling requirements.

For software, Microsoft Office 2010 can run in crossover Office using Wine, as well as Photoshop CS4. Native photo editing like the Gimp is very mature, plus for RAW workflow the is Raw studio or paid app Aftershot. Surfing the web, Firefox is the default browser but Chrome or Iron works well too. Adobe flash, html 5, and Java all works well on the Ubuntu UX, so you can play your favorite Facebook games, and java game websites with ease. Printer driver support is is surprisingly good, with most printers avail all built into Ubuntu.

Finally USB support. Can read and write Microsoft NTFS external drives, FAT 32, etc etc. External web cam support is comprehensive should you want to plug in an external webcam. External USB sound cards work default out of box. USB keyboards and Mice too work instantly when plugged in, with no delays on first connection liek you would find in XP or Windows 7.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby tomn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 02:27

Bigs,

Wow, thanks for the detail analysis. I do have some questions:

1. Are you playing 1080p HD video on the U7700 modded UX with 60% CPU? What about unmodified 1.33GHz core solo UX, can it do 1080p with the latest driver?

2. How much extra battery life do you get? How many minutes on standard battery?

3. Can your UX run Skype under ubuntu? Google voice/talk for free calls?

4. I do use the mouse pointer very much, how bad is the unintentional left click issue?

Thanks for your response!
[color="Blue"]CURRENT TOY SYSTEMS:[/color]



Vaio PCG-U1 - Transmeta 867MHz 6.4"

Vaio VGN-U50 - 5"32G SSD

Vaio UX380N - 4.5" 128G SSD

Vaio P15G - 8" 128G SSD



Viliv S5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb

Viliv N5 SSD 3G - 4.8" 0.9lb



Fujitsu U820 - 5.6" 128G SSD

Samsung Q1 Ultra - 7" 2G RAM 64G SLC SSD

Dell Inspiron Duo - 300G SSD



[color="Red"]NEW TOYS:[/color]



Dell Venue 8 Pro - 64G eMMC

Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T- 64G eMMC

Sony Vaio Tap 11 - 2.9GHz Core i7 1TB SSD

Samsung Note Pro 12.2

Dell Venue 11 Pro - Core M 256G SSD


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