Solid State vs Conventional Hard Drive

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Postby computercowboy » Tue Dec 07, 2010 17:47

I don't think anything has changed with UDMA on runcore

The photofast is a good drive that goes up toe 128GB, expensive though. I probably won't upgrade the drive in my 490N, I'm happy with it, only 48GB but fast and reliable.
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Postby Outtasight » Tue Dec 07, 2010 19:18

Is it worth getting the newer, faster 32Gb MS Pro Duo HG HX version? These support 15-20MB/s transfer using 8 bit parallel interface.

Not sure what type of controller the UX1XN has. The ordinary Pro Duo only supports 4 bit parallel transfers and the old serial mode.
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Postby computercowboy » Tue Dec 07, 2010 22:19

don't know anything about that, i would guess that it is not supported
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Postby ceehoppy1st » Wed Dec 08, 2010 02:18

I believe that someone else had asked that in another thread & determined that the (old) UX card reader was slower than the standard msproduo R/W capabilities. Nothing is gained on the UX by using the HX card.
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Postby Outtasight » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:45

I got a SanDisk HG 32Gb card and it doesn't work properly at all in the UX. It only recognises 13.8Gb. If I use the card in a cheapo USB card reader I got from a supermarket a couple of years ago, it formats to 29.8Gb but then is unreadable in the UX slot (it errors, saying the card isn't formatted).

Seems that quite a few laptops of that era used the Texas Instruments chipset for their internal card readers and none of them work now with SDHC or large MS cards. I tried various versions of the TI drivers from Sony, Acer and HP, and none get around the 13.8Gb limit of the 32Gb card. TI haven't bothered to update the drivers since mid-2007.

Curiously, the 16Gb Sony card I have been using formats to 15.1Gb and works fine.

Time to look at upgrade SSDs again...
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Postby EnglishGent » Wed Dec 22, 2010 04:52

computercowboy wrote:I don't think anything has changed with UDMA on runcore

The photofast is a good drive that goes up toe 128GB, expensive though. I probably won't upgrade the drive in my 490N, I'm happy with it, only 48GB but fast and reliable.



I'm looking for a 128GB SSD that's compatible with the UX27GN. It's come with a 40GB HDD and Vista Business, so I'm looking to upgrade it to a sizable SSD and Windows 7 Ultimate.

The PhotoFast 1.8" G-Monster V4 128GB SSD drive has a '50-pin IDE' connector and apparently suffers known UX issues around hibernation etc.

The Runcore 1.8" Pro IV 128GB PATA SSD is a '40-pin ZIF' and apparently had issues with its first Firmware revision not recognising that the UX supports UDMA 6.

Has the Runcore had this issue fixed with a Firmware upgrade or should I go with the Photofast or some other SSD model?

Also, which connector type do I need to get for a straight forward 'remove the HDD, add the SSD' upgrade on the UX27GN - 40-pin ZIF or 50-pin IDE? And finally, I assume I'm correct in believing the drive type required for the UX is PATA, not SATA?

Any advice, guidance and/or warnings regarding these plans would be greatly appreciated from your newest Forum member :)

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Wed Dec 22, 2010 07:12

Sony UX uses the 1.8 PATA-ZIF style hdd/ssd. Some folks have had problems with both Photofast & Runcore (both make ZIF type ssd). I don't have experience with either. Has anyone tried Renice K3VLAR 1.8 ZIF ssd?
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Postby EnglishGent » Sat Jan 01, 2011 13:48

ceehoppy1st wrote:Sony UX uses the 1.8 PATA-ZIF style hdd/ssd. Some folks have had problems with both Photofast & Runcore (both make ZIF type ssd). I don't have experience with either. Has anyone tried Renice K3VLAR 1.8 ZIF ssd?


I've now had first-hand experience of the Runcore Pro IV 128GB ZIF PATA SSD and it is first rate. The drive comes with Firmware 2030 (so forget previous issues regarding Firmware upgrading, these are no longer relevant).

UMDA 5 is also automatically configured, so previous issues with the UDMA 2 being set have also now been addressed by Runcore.

You get cloning hardware and software with the drive and the transition from HDD to SSD is seamless, quick and straight-forward.

All in all, I can highly recommend the Runcore SSD for the Sony UX from my own experience of their latest 128GB drive.
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Postby Viks » Wed Feb 16, 2011 03:03

ceehoppy1st wrote:Sony UX uses the 1.8 PATA-ZIF style hdd/ssd. Some folks have had problems with both Photofast & Runcore (both make ZIF type ssd). I don't have experience with either. Has anyone tried Renice K3VLAR 1.8 ZIF ssd?


I've got Renice K3vlar K3E (EastWho) 64GB SSD recently. It uses native PATA controller and not a sata2pata converter and consumes less power than non-EastWho version.

Just installed Windows 7 on my UX today and I must say that it works exceptionally well!

- No standby/resume issues
- UMDA 5
- hardware garbage collection
- low temperature and power consuption

I can reaaly recommended it to anyone who is on the market after a good SSD fo UX.
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Postby bigs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 08:31

so does renice perform faster than photofast equalivalent? I know photofast too has native pata and no sata2pata. For me suspend works with my 32gb photofast.

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