Solid State vs Conventional Hard Drive

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Viks
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Postby Viks » Wed Feb 16, 2011 09:27

2bigs As I can see both Renice and Photofast v4 use exactly the same EastWho EWS720 native PATA controller so I don't think renice performing faster.
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Postby bigs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 18:14

hmm according to this website

https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/SPD/renice-64gb-k3vlar-1-8--pata-zif-ssd-solid-state-drive-for-pc-and-mac---rn-k3a-z1864--80000E08-1278969986.jsp#specifications

the benchmark shows renice even outperforming runcore iv which I do know has sata2pata adapter. In addition at the bottom product photos, there is a picture of inside of the renice showing a marvell sata2pata.

Sata2pata drives tend to perform faster than native pata ones, obviously a slight side effect of higher power consumption.
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Postby Viks » Wed Feb 16, 2011 18:43

I've got mine from MyDigitalDiscount, but there is two versions of K3vlar.

This is the one I have (EastWho native pata): Renice 60GB K3VLAR E (K3 E) 1.8" PATA 40-Pin Zif SSD Solid State Drive for PC and Mac - RN-K3E-Z1864

And the other one is that you have provided link to (is sata2pata one and faster performing one, but with higher temperature and power consuption).
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Postby ioannistheo » Tue Mar 15, 2011 09:56

Just got my 80$ 32GB Kingspec with SMI controller. These are the CrystalDiskmark results on a windowsXP 380P

seq_read = 74.18 seq_write = 26.13
512Kb_read = 72.16 512Kb_write = 21.91
4k_read=11.15 4k_write = 1.8

Overall it feels fast. I also gained an hour battery life.

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variations

Postby tomtombu » Sat Apr 23, 2011 05:23

w/o cache
Kingspec (SMI or Jmicron?) and PhotoFast 1.8" V1 and V2 (SMI) is cheapest and as far as my experience sometimes ok on Win 7 (aligned file system) when not too many backround tasks are running and timestamp is off and system has enough memory to swap, lets say ok for browser use, but totally crap on Win XP (many freezes)! But perfect for cheap upgrade for MP3 players of course! The lacking on-board cache is definately an issue.

Indilinx
Runcore Pro IV (Indilinx JMicron bridged), PhotoFast 1.8" V3 (Indilinx SunPlus bridged) and Renice (Marvell bridged) are definately the fastest 1.8 IDE SSDs related to random writes (up to ~7 kb/s), but I experienced many problems, especially on certain Windows 7 systems (maybe because they are used to use Trim with SSDs, Indilinx offers Trim, but IDE does not), had many unexpected bluescreens. Lets say for mathematical calculation stuff you need high random writes on Linux this is the best, but ... lower seq. data transferrates than EWS 720 based and probably more compatibility issues.

EastWho
The EWS 720 based models MX-Technologies Nano and PhotoFast 1.8" V4 and Renice K3E are the most stable ones and also have much faster read speed compared to the Indilinx bridged ones! But havent used the Renice one I have to confess...
PhotoFast uses Samsung Flash, MX-Technologies Intel/Micron ones.

Maybe this helps :-)

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Postby bigs » Sat Apr 23, 2011 08:29

eastwho controller gets my thumbs up ;)
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OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby mag1119 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 03:23

As usual, great posts and info. I intend to get a second UX - I have a 380N, and will be sure to get an SSD, especially after this info. Thanks to all.

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Postby Neverwinter » Sat Mar 17, 2012 00:06

It's not clear to me... can a SATA SSD be used in a UX? Any SATA? It looks like some posts are saying something about a SATA to PATA converter?

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Sat Mar 17, 2012 03:46

The UX uses a pata/IDE hdd or ssd with a ZIF interface. A couple of the ssd on this thread are (internally) sata drives with a pata converter built into them- packaged with a ZIF connector. They look & function as pata-ZIF drives.

If you look at threads here & here, there are discussions on how to use two different forms of Sata ssd in the UX in place of (or in addition to ) the pata-ZIF drive. One is the 1.8" microSata (uSata), two is the miniSata (50mm mini-pcie mSata). Getting either to work in the UX- via sata-ZIF adapter or via sata controller card- requires fairly advanced electronics soldering / "modding" skills.
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Postby silex » Sat May 19, 2012 10:42

Hello guys, just booted a MX Nano 120gb in the place of my oooold Toshiba mk4009gal hard drive. Just did only a boot for test. I'll put later pics with the mounting and some benches. Feels like it's near as fast as my desktop's Crucial C300, but a tad slower, and ages over the mechanical one.

PS: It's very strange now not to feel the mechanical vibrations when handheld :)))))

PS1: ***** VERY IMPORTANT ***** The MX Nano should be mounted with the opposite side as to the mechanical Toshiba drive (the ZIF connector should be under the SSD drive)
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