Toshiba Libretto W100

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Postby technogeekchris » Thu Apr 14, 2011 05:32

Maybe for the same reason.. It will get hotter...

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Postby bigs » Thu Apr 14, 2011 05:34

blaster, I believe this 18 watt u5400 processor does more than what you think it does. For a start the die is smaller than the u7700 10 watt processor, plus the u5400 has on board gpu controller that does HD. There is no need for a crystal HD pci-e card here. The fact that its all integrated, means overall less power consumed than the u7700.

Remember although for the ux is 10watts using u7700 or 5.5 watts for u1500, there is also heat generated by the gma950. It may not equate to much but it does add up. I have not included the crystal HD card which I believe will give off heat as well. Power split to powering 3 distinct components u7700, gma950 and crystal hd pci-e vs u5400 which has all components integrated into one, and smaller die makes for less power requirements.

The reason for the libretto getting hot in my opinion due to the way the heat is dissipated from the unit. UX has alot of airgaps around the mainboard for airflow. This is not necessarily the case with libretto, and alot of heat may be dissipated into the frame or chasis.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard
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Postby bigs » Thu Apr 14, 2011 05:44

blaster my ux runs nice and cool fanless when I run ubuntu throttle limited to 800Mhz for general surfing for about 60 minutes, then I require some fan assistance just to regulate the temps to 50 degrees celcius.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby blaster » Sat Apr 16, 2011 09:10

yeah but the lebbreto also has anuther gpu plus the cpu, also just cos it idles well doesn't mean the pc is in idel 100% of the time. when i am using my ux i am in idel less than 40% of the time.

the problem with Ubuntu is you cant un anything and i have no idea where to start with the hole cpu throttling. i gave cpu on it. bigs you shod make a how to and driver pack. (i cant even work out how to install drivers)
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Postby bigs » Sat Apr 16, 2011 09:27

well there must be reason for the 18 watt tdp. Technology should get better with smaller die , so must be some improvement somewhere. ie heat must be doing some work, unless they put in a Prescott disguiesed as a ulv lol
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby blaster » Tue Apr 19, 2011 18:46

i guss you have the debate of a 20watt prosesor can be just as powerful as a desctop 80watt prosesor
UX37GN - taking out the pcie wifi. adding internal usb hib with wifi and adding a broadcom crustal hd

TZ17 - u7600 48gb sony slc ssd 2gb ram. TZ16 u7500 80gb hdd 2gb ram

acer aspire one a150. 1.6ghz 1.5gb ram. 6cell battery :D

EEE PC 900. 9" 900mhz 2gb ram. i have been messing around with windows 7 and 8 hehe

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Postby bigs » Tue Apr 19, 2011 20:16

well yes blaster, good that you mention this, if we compared this procesor with the likes of the older prescott CPU, or even pentium 4 mobile, we would find the u5400 overall would be quicker than these ancient cpus.

I remember the days of pentium 4 mobile, the amount of heat it could produce was good enough as a hand warmer! Alot of laptops of that genre failed with age, not due to electronic hardware failure, but due to the plastic housings getting brittle due to excessive heat.

Guess the w100 does have metal case where heat is most pronounced, plus as a bonus it does not deliver the same heat as the old pentium 4 mobile so this effect should not occur.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby darkerx » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:25

Well... I just ordered a W100-107 with large battery for 300€... brand new from shop:
http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/tablettes-tactiles-ebooks/toshiba-libretto-w100-107/f-10798010206-plw10e00200tfr.html

I couldn't resist... too cheap.
UX490: 'Anh's Design'=U7700/ 128gbssd/ quad-boot(MacosX/W7/Vista/XP)/ cellphone-voice /7.2mbps modem
UX280P: overclocked prototype of the 490
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Postby bigs » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:16

wow, thats real cheap. You will have to bench it against you 490N with u7700 CPU.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby darkerx » Fri Sep 16, 2011 15:32

It will be one of the very first thing I'll do with it... benchs... ;)

Then try to overclock it.... :D
UX490: 'Anh's Design'=U7700/ 128gbssd/ quad-boot(MacosX/W7/Vista/XP)/ cellphone-voice /7.2mbps modem

UX280P: overclocked prototype of the 490

UX1XN: stock=>TVset for my 22 months old daughter

3 Jornada HP728/HP 720: gps/wifi/webcam/etc. dead/closed architecture


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