Fujitsu Loox F-07c Dual Boot umpc with built in phone

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Postby blaster » Fri Aug 26, 2011 05:29

lol it this ran android id sell my p for it. and i dont see the 2 hours as a problem. its a 3.7v battery right? which means it runs of 5v which means you can get a cellphone external battery which is esier than a laptop external. lol you can esaly run it off a tiny solar panel with less problems cos you can go direct to the battery if you where glueing one on the back.
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Postby bigs » Fri Aug 26, 2011 06:11

good call blaster on the 5v power requirement. It seems really small. An all integrated atom CPU definitely the way to go.

Price wise, is plainly obvious considering this phone has more than double the potential of the xperia, cmon windows 7!

Not sure if this mobile could replace your P series, since P has a good sized keyboard, and this phone only has a thumb board built in. It may however be able to replace a UX, as it has similar keyboard, but will not have anywhere near the cpu power of a UX.

To run android on the loox, someone probably will need to hack it specifically for it to run android, and that can only happen, if the device hits a saturation point whereby there is international sales of this product.
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Postby bigs » Fri Aug 26, 2011 06:13

blaster wrote:hey guys is runs of 5v. 2hours battery im sorry this is the easiest pc to fined an external battery for. you guys should reed up on the atom it has.

built in ram(i think) built in north bridge built in everything and it only uses 1.3watts

i am 90%shore it has built in ram cos the higher levels for that atom series are slimier but have a different type of ram so it should be built in.

that means means if anh upgrades we can get a very good little pc with 2gb of ram.

get it running android and im sold. for me its a choice between xperia pro (not mini) or this


This indeed is impressive, the best I can get the UX with low brightness and u7700 CPU running idle is 8 watts which I dare say is less than a stock UX with standard hard drive, and stock u1500 CPU.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

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Postby tangobravo » Fri Aug 26, 2011 16:11

Ooof -- Engadget just did a review on this one, finally. Wow, they ripped it (but then again, they have never been kind to the UMPC category as a whole, so it shouldn't be too big a surprise)... and they DO bring some rather good points...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/26/fujitsu-loox-f-07c-review/

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Postby bigs » Fri Aug 26, 2011 22:29

wow, excellent honest review. That really put me off getting one! The absence of 3.5mm dedicated headphone socket really is of the dark ages now.

Underclocked cpu to 600Mhz and only lasting 1hr is indeed pretty poor. Think for the most of us having a dedicated smart phone and a ux on hand is probably the better solution still. 30 seconds to resume from hibernate between switching symbian to windows7 is a tad slow in my opinion even with ssd helping it.

Also sounds like the lcd backlight is that of an inferior design, while on the sony ux the led backlight is superior it seems.

Athough a tiny device, these lacking features in my opinion is a real shame, and guess atom is really not anywhere close to being as power efficient as the dual core arm9 cpus found in the likes of modern android smart phones.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby mrmg » Thu Sep 01, 2011 16:02

I've taken the plunge and am picking one of these up later today. I'll hopefully report back over the weekend with my findings. I love these little devices.

My first plans are to overclock it back up to 1.2Ghz and remove all the bloatware. I've already read disabling the touchscreen can give a big performance and battery improvement so if the trackball is fine I might give this a go.

Let me know if you have any questions and I'll try and answer them.

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Postby UXername » Thu Sep 01, 2011 17:02

@mrmg, hmm, i guess i know where you read that. btw, on that forum, one said that there's a rumor that there'll be a successor and large capacity battery for f-07c. he lives in japan and is a japanese.

...I also found some rumor of the successor and large battery for the phone, but this must be taken with good grain of salt. The "leak" says that there will be 2500mA / 4900mA large battery late next month, with up to 5.5hr battery life. For the successor, he says it will have; 1280x768 screen, Atom Z650, 2 USB ports, Stereo mini-jack, Bluetooth for PC side, keyboard separation mechanism(like F-04B) etc. He also says that there were no plan to design another model of this phone but sales were better than expected so they changed their mind. He says it will be on sale March next year.


well, all rumors but I think I'll just wait for that, the successor :D

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Postby bigs » Thu Sep 01, 2011 20:17

hmmm, interesting, did not know a capacitive touch screen would use that much power. but hey if it saves power, why not disable hehe.

Wonder how much battery impact and heat will unlocking the cpu back to 1.2ghz will be.

For the u7700 ux I lock my multiplier to max 1.06 Ghz I get at least 10 degrees C difference when cpu is loaded 100%, and thats just 80% thhrottling down. Imagine doubling the cpu speed will incur alot warmer phone!
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby mrmg » Thu Sep 01, 2011 23:29

Hey guys,

I've picked it up and really liking the phone so far but have had very limited play time so far.

I've just got wifi working and have been trying to get 3G working too.

Going to go have a read over the thread on meet:Mobility and see what tips I can pick up and see what playing around with it does myself.

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Postby bigs » Fri Sep 02, 2011 04:20

congrats mrmg, look forward to hearing your feedback on the use of this new device.

Will be interesting to see how this device performs in a desktop like environment, as I think you can plug your phone straight into a HD screen, plus keyboard and mouse!
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn


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